Vandy's Kids: Anon's Basketball Trivia:

Thursday, January 10, 2008

Anon's Basketball Trivia:

A comment from below, worthy of its' own post:


Anonymous said...: You folks seem to like trivia, so here is a question about a little known fact concerning Johnson County basketball. Three young Johnson County boys graduated the same year from high school. Later these three would become NBA all stars. Johnson County is the only county in the country to produce three NBA all stars that graduated high school the same year. The three would also be inducted into the Indiana basketball hall of fame.

Part one: who were they and what year did they graduate?

A Centergrove basketball team won a tournament that included a team on which two of the above NBA all stars were members. They were defeated in the championship game. It so happens that Vandy was the presenter of the tournament trophy.

Part two: What year did a Centergrove basketball team trounce a team that included future NBA all stars.

20 comments:

Top Cat said...: I believe it was Tom and Dick VanArsdale who played at Manual and Jon McGloklin that played at Franklin. I don't remember if Manual won the State that year or were runner ups. All three went on and played at IU. Jon played proball for Milwakee Bucks.One VanArsdale played for Phoneix and I think one played at Chicago. I'm guessing on when they graduated about 1962?; Jan 10, 2008, 3:45:00 PM
Greybeard said...: Manual High School....
Johnson County?
I thought of 'em too, but eliminated them because of that.; Jan 10, 2008, 5:05:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Tom and Dick VanArsdale lived in Greenwood but attended Manual H.S. since their parents worked there. They did attend Greenwood through middle school....THAT'S WHEN THE TROJANS BEAT THEM in a Middle School Tournament. (You know, Manual H.S. was fortunate that C.G. didn't schedule them in Basketball weren't they???!) I remember the Trophy in the Trophy Case but cannot tell you the year.

Bo; Jan 11, 2008, 6:39:00 AM
Anonymous said...: AND.......the Vans did NOT win STATE when they were seniors. They were runner-ups to ??

Bo; Jan 11, 2008, 6:45:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Tom and Dick lived west off Madison between Fry Road and Main Street. They went to Greenwood through Jr. High. Because their father Van taught at Emmerich Manual High School and their mother Hilda was an assistant to the vice-principal they spent their High School years at Manual. Talk about how times change, at that time Manual was the better academic environment. Today Manual needs security patrolling inside and out. The Town of Greenwood did take legal action to be certain that tuition was being paid and that Hilda's job wasn't given as a form of bribery. Van and Hilda stuck to their story about the better academics and a more competitive environment. The long and short of this story is that these two boys are from Johnson County. They lost to Kokomo in the 1961 State Finals when Armen Cobb fouled Kokomo's Ronnie Hughs driving the lane. Hughs made both and won Kokomo a 68-66 victory in overtime. Tom and Dick Van Arsdale from Greenwood along with Jon McGlocklin from Franklin graduated in 1961 and became NBA Legends.
The three of them would play for Branch McCracken at IU and eventually beat a Purdue team staring none other than Ronnie Hughs, their nightmare from Kokomo.

Part one is complete.; Jan 11, 2008, 6:47:00 AM
Anonymous said...: I was a teacher at Center Grove during the sectional tournament at Franklin Community High School of 1961 when Jon McGlocklin's Franklin High School team was rated very high in the state but was defeated by I think CG. It was really a tough blow to the Grizzlies. It was also hard for me being a teacher at CG wanting them to win but also my neighbor across the street from me that i saw grow up to be a great basketball player get defeated.Jon grew up in Franklin across from me. When he entered IU I use to see the twins come by and pick him up to head to IU occasionally. I still keep in contact with Jon. He played about 8 years with Milwaukee, then became a color commentator for them. That game will never forget, or the time CG went to the Columbus regional and was defeated by Buster Briley?? from Madison. I cannot remember the year.
Mr. L; Jan 11, 2008, 7:13:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Franklin lost to Centergrove for a couple reasons. Jon was playing on a gimpy leg and the other was Centergrove's Herb Wiese. Centergrove led the 1960 Columbus regional game against Briley and crew by 11 points at half time. This score was given out during halftime at the Indianapolis regionals and the press and fans went nuts. The upset was not to be. That was the year of B and B. Bonham from Muncie and Briley from Madison. A side note about Jon. That gimpy leg and political issues cost him a spot on the Indiana All Star team according to Don Bates, Indianapolis Star sports reporter and director of the event.; Jan 11, 2008, 7:46:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Thank goodness you remember all the details from those great games. I'm sure there are many more stories you can share with us. Please remember Center Grove is 2 words and not Centergrove....

Thanks for the memories!

Bo; Jan 11, 2008, 8:05:00 AM
Anonymous said...: I appreciate the scolding. My story is this. My email address is Centergrove and in a hurry I accidentally typed that name and not the proper Center Grove.
The final part of the basketball question can be found, I believe, in the sports section of the 1957 "Center Grove" yearbook.; Jan 11, 2008, 8:34:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Bo
Your trip last year to Northern Georgia produced a couple phone calls to me from a couple really old Whiteland basketball players suggesting that I come there and back up my statements. I now have to travel, with golf clubs, to Georgia and defend that statement. Now, you scold me for spelling. To make amends, you might email that picture from the 1957 yearbook to the both of those fellows and ask them what tournaments they won!; Jan 11, 2008, 9:22:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Dear Anonymous,
I will with GREAT PLEASURE get that picture to those two guys down in Georgia.
EVERY TIME that the spouse of one of your Georgia friends and I have the opportunity; we remind him whose team was the best. Sometimes he doesn't take it very well....kind of sad isn't it?? HA!

Bo; Jan 11, 2008, 7:13:00 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey Bo,

Was it Connersville that we were runner up to in the State???

Echo; Jan 15, 2008, 4:58:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Dear Echo, What a memory you have! The only time I recall C.G. beating Connersville (I think it was Connersville!) was at Semi-State at Hinkle Fieldhouse in 1971 or 1972. We beat them on a last second shot "Heard "round the World" by I think Mike Coffey. I'm very fuzzy on the details of this; I was there and remember the celebrating after he made the shot. Randy Stewart got so excited he beat on the lady in front on him; someone else lost their glasses under the open seats and they landed way down under the bleachers. Unfortunately, Center Grove lost the Championship Game to ??? I can't remember!

Bo; Jan 18, 2008, 6:06:00 AM
Anonymous said...: O.K. Echo,
The more I think about that game, I think it was Rick Coffey that made the "shot heard 'round the world". I can't remember who we beat for sure but it raised the roof on Hinkle Fieldhouse! I wish Bill Benner would straighten me out on this....I remember seeing him there at the game but I can't remember who we played! HA!!

Bo; Jan 18, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Center Grove beat Richmond in the afternoon game. Guy Ogden hit the winning, last second shot. It was a great game, as Richmond was undefeated and ranked #2 in the state. It made for a great day, but the Trojans lost the evening game to Connersville, who eventually won the state championship.; Feb 4, 2008, 12:10:00 PM
Dan OB said...: On March 11, 1972, Center Grove upset Richmond, 62-61, in the opening round of the Indianapolis semistate Guy Ogden's jumper just before the final horn. Both schools entered the semistate with 20-5 records but Richmond was ranked 15th in the state while Center Grove was unranked. Ogden led the Trojans with 24 points. Glen Tow scored 14 and Bill Cragen added 10 points. Richmond's Rick Thalls led all scorers with 30 points.; May 7, 2008, 5:13:00 AM
Dan OB said...: Jon McGlocklin's 15th-ranked Franklin team was upset by Greenwood, 57-46, in the 1961 Sectional at Whiteland. Center Grove lost in overtime to Trafalgar. Greenwood went on to win its first Sectional in 20 years.

Franklin had closed out the regular season with a triple overtime victory over No. 2 Indianapolis Cathedral. McGlocklin scored 30 points, including the game-winner. He still calls it the greatest game he ever played in. Among the Cathedral players was Garry Donna. The game was played at Whiteland to accomodate the large crowd.; May 7, 2008, 5:34:00 AM
Anonymous said...: Wow this is wild...I'm 47 now and was 12 in 1972. I grew up in richmond and the name Guy Ogden is engrained in my mind. I was sitting at home listening to the game on WKBV AM dial...the good ol days...Guy put the shot up with like a second left...all I can remember is hearind "It's Gooooooood!" from the announcer as my spirit deflated. 35 years later I still remember his name and was checking an Indiana basketball site related to Richmond and "googled" Guy Ogden...that's how I found this site...Talk about a guy making an Impact on people From Richmond...That name still haunts us!; Jun 24, 2008, 12:09:00 PM
Anonymous said...: I am Glad i found this blog.Added vandyskids.blogspot.com to my bookmark!; Dec 19, 2010, 10:47:00 PM
Anonymous said...: FROM FRANKLIN: That Ogdon buzzer beater was the start of Richmond's 3 game skid against Johnson County as Franklin went on to win both semi state games at Hinkle in 73 and 74.
I was 12 in 1973. Seems like yesterday! I remember being so facinated by the Richmond crowd chanting "GO BIG RED" "GO BIG RED"
Good old days; Oct 6, 2011, 9:46:00 PM

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